Counseling for perpetrators – Why do stalkers often see themselves as victims? – Entertainment

Constant messages, spying or lying in wait – stalking has many faces. But why does someone become a stalker? We spoke about this with Stefan Martin from Mannebuero Zurich.

Stephen Martin

Violence and men’s advisor


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The 35-year-old focused on the topic of stalking while studying social work at the Zurich University of Applied Sciences (ZHAW) and wrote his bachelor’s thesis on the topic. At the Manneburo He has developed concepts for consultations, among other things, specifically for this type of violence.

SRF: Why does someone become a stalker?

Stephan Martin: A uniform answer is difficult. But I think it’s often about commitment difficulties. That you haven’t learned how to separate yourself adequately. To know: When does it end? And also not being able to deal with rejection.

What is stalking?


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According to Swiss crime prevention, this refers to the intentional and repeated persecution and harassment of a person in such a way that their safety is threatened and their way of life is seriously impaired.

Which people come to counseling?

Basically, it’s a colorful bouquet of men who come to us – from bankers to road builders, everyone is there. It depends on the context: Is it a referral via the public prosecutor’s office for a violent crime? Or is it a self-reporter who has committed violence and wants to change his behavior?

Manneburo


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The Mannebüro Zurich advises men who use violence against their partners or fear doing so, works with them to develop constructive forms of conflict resolution and supports them in implementing it in everyday relationships.

The institution was founded in the late 1980s. The first women’s shelters and advice centers for women victims of domestic violence had been around for several years. The idea was to create a support service for men who want to change their violent behavior towards women.

Today, the mannebuero carries out 1,600 personal and 2,000 telephone and email consultations every year.

And what about those who engage in stalking?

Very difficult. From a social perspective, stalking is associated with a lot of shame. Pop culture also plays a role: Whitney Houston’s stalker in the film “Bodyguard,” for example. You always have the feeling that the stalker is such a sick personality.

Instead of standing in front of your ex-partner’s house: What could you do instead at this moment?

But today we know that these are often people who do not have a pathological background. Rather, it’s more about attachment difficulties, for example. In addition, you may not be able to see that you are being stalked.

How does a stalker still find you?

Mostly either involuntarily through the public prosecutor’s office, through the Violence Protection Act – where we get the files and volunteer for a conversation, or a few come on their own initiative.

Violence Protection Act


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The police can order special protective measures to protect people at risk. These can include expulsion, arrest as well as a ban on contact and rayon. These measures apply for 14 days and can be extended for a maximum of three months.

How do you work with these people?

We are certainly working on reflection. The first step is to accept that your own behavior is wrong. It is important to show what your own behavior means for the other person and to understand that you are also harming yourself.

Legal situation


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Stalking is currently not a separate criminal offense in Switzerland. Therefore, it can only be prosecuted if individual actions of the stalking person are punishable. However, these are often not illegal individually and those affected cannot file a criminal complaint.

That could now change: The Legal Affairs Commission is currently working on a draft law that would explicitly criminalize stalking. The proposal is expected to be discussed in the National Council in the summer.

Sources: The Federal Assembly The Swiss Parliament, Swiss Crime Prevention, BRAVA

Since it’s often about the ex-partner, everything revolves around her. All other things that are stabilizing are forgotten during this time. That’s why we’re also working on regeneration options. Instead of standing in front of your ex-partner’s house: What could you do instead at this moment? Take charge of your own life again. Build a structure again and see that your own life is worth living.

Do you see yourself as a victim?

I think that in order to justify this pathological stalking yourself, it certainly helps if you blame the other person. That’s why a central point in stalking advice is taking responsibility.

We show: You are 100 percent responsible for your own actions. What was before was before. We can discuss this together. But the plot thing is just a different topic. That we really try to separate that. But of course you can’t do that in one sitting.

How big is the insight that your own behavior is wrong?

When it comes to stalking, I’ve had both. I had to deal with people where I had to see that there wasn’t really any insight at all. But I’ll say it’s about 50/50. But it can also be that you think: I think he’s slowly getting it. And next time he’ll be in the victim role again. It’s a back and forth. It’s not like someone comes to us and is then just healed. It’s about learning to live with your issues and taking responsibility. That’s what I’m trying to do.

The interview was conducted by Sina Alpiger.

Stallking help


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Are you or someone close to you affected by stalking? Or do you have an uneasy feeling about yourself or someone else? You can find support here:

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